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Around the Horn with The Yankees

Well, Javier Vazquez looked better, but not exactly great, last night. He had a little more life on his fastball and the A’s were biting on a sharp slider. But he mostly wiggled out of trouble last night thanks to plays like the “look what I found” double play on a line drive at his head that the pitcher caught, doubling off the runner at first. Marte continued his mercurial ways, but Joba looked excellent and really may put to rest a lot of controversy with outings like last night–coming in with the base loaded in the seventh to strike out the clean up hitter, throwing fastballs well into the mid 90s.

Old Men Down the Road…For those of you who think past is prologue, or that the future is predetermined by the present, or that April statistics predict August performance, I point you to two Sabremetrically-minded pieces by Joseph Pawlikowski looking at the early season stats of Jorge Posada and Derek Jeter. I don’t think it all amounts to much–what a guy does in the first two weeks of the season doesn’t really bear any relationship to what a guy does in July or August: players make adjustments, opponents change, etc., predicting the future with stats (other than assuming that a veteran player will likely play to his career averages over a full season) is a hopeless task. What Pawlikowski’s stats show us is that Jeter’s hitting more ground balls than usual so far and that Posada’s off to a hot start, “seeing the ball well” and “on everything in the strike zone”–which is what the old timers called it when a player had a “high z-contact rate.” I guess it’s not bad to have a way to quantify that, but I don’t think the stat tells us anything we don’t know from watching, it just provides some specificity.

When Stats Lie…And speaking of Sabremetrics, the poster boy for the kind of Sabremetrical sophistry that allows geeks to argue that Nick Johnson is as good as Hideki Matsui because of Nick’s higher wOBA over the past couple of years, is off to what the old timers used to call a “lousy start.” There are some stats-obsessed fans who wear blinders and will argue, apparently without irony, that Nick Johnson is off too a good start because of his .407 OBP and 16 walks; that he’s doing just what the Yanks acquired him to do; that he’s performing well in his role as a number two hitter. But I’m sorry, a designated hitter, that is, a guy getting paid exclusively to hit, who is batting .146, who has fanned in 36% of his at bats, who is slugging .268, is not off to a good start. At Was Watching MJ Recanati asks “Is Nick Johnson Too Selective?” ; at A Train Baseball I’m asking, “Is Nick Johnson Any Good?”

A Run Scored is Worth More than A Run Saved…That’s what I say, if only because a run scored is tangible, a run prevented is, more often than not, theoretical. (Sure, if a guy knocks down a ball on the infield holding a baserunner at third, or like Arod last night, an infielder throws home to get the out vs. taking the easy out at first, then a run really is prevented; but statistical abstractions for how many runs-prevented a particular player’s defense is worth, are birds in the bush if you ask me.) Mike Silva comes to the same conclusion more or else in a good post on NY Baseball Digest regarding Red Sox GM Theo Epstein and his Sabremetrically-inspired “run prevention” plan for the 2010 Red Sox. Quoth Mike:

For the first time in his career this ballclub has Theo Epstein’s fingerprints all over it. Remember, the 2004 club was primarily Dan Duquette. The 2007 bunch had two players, Josh Beckett and Mike Lowell, who were acquired while Theo was hiding in a monkey suit. Most believe he never would have traded Hanley Ramirez and who knows if the Sox win without Beckett that season. My guess is probably not.

Is it time to panic? 4-9 for the Red Sox is a small “sample size” (tell that to the 5-8 Mets and Jerry Manuel), mainly because many in the media loves Theo Epstein. Many love advanced metric ideology even more. To say the Sox are “flawed” would be admitting the whole plus/minus philosophy isn’t all what it’s cracked up to be. Do you think even the best defense is going to stop the Yankees from scoring? Did it during the opening series? What the Sox could have used against the Yanks was a few clutch hits. Will Adrian Beltre and Mike Cameron provide that? Don’t hold your breath. Yes, the Yankees went with Brett Gardner, but only because they surrounded him with 8 other offensive players. Their main pickup, Curtis Granderson, plays defense but can hit 30 homers and drive in 100 runs to boot. If the Sox wanted a new outfielder other than Bay it was Granderson, not Cameron, they should have acquired.

 

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  • JasonChervokas
    I don't mind Damon for Granderson. Grandy's 8 years younger, a much better (although not exactly a great) outfielder at this point, and Damon, for all his hitting last year, always gave up the body and was breaking down. I get walking away from him, although I always loved his game from the time he came up w/ KC.

    Nick Johnson, well, I've beat up on him a lot, maybe unfairly. I don't have anything against him. He's an okay player--at least he used to be when he was a pretty good first baseman. But anyone who thinks he's good because he's got a .407 OBP while he's hitting .125 is living in a delusional fantasy. He had some pretty lousy ABs tonight too, looking at pitches he should be swinging at and swinging at pitches he should be taking.

    As to the Sox, I'm shocked at how badly they are pitching. On paper it was obvious that they didn't have lots of HR power, but they have a bunch of tough outs who hit balls hard--Pedroia, Youklis, even Beltre, Victor Martinez. But on paper their pitching is even better than that and it hasn't showed yet this year. I think it will. And consecutive comeback walkoff wins, albeit vs. the Rangers, could be a psychological jump start (though I don't know what it will take for the pitching to turn around).

    The Rays? Well, I love their lineup. Lots of good hitters (and one really great one), lots of speed and athleticism...but I don't love the back of their rotation and I really think their bullpen is weak. Let a long season grind 'em down. Are they really 15 games better than they were last year?
  • twasp
    Yeah, of course Grandy was a wise choice and upgrade over Melky. But the Yankees didn't have to make a choice between Damon or Granderson. Cashman had to decide between Damon who was asking 2/$20 or NJ who was asking $5m or Matsui who he didn't even talk to because he thought his knees were shot.

    If I'm the GM at that point my first choice is:

    1. Bring Matsui back as DH for 1 year. No contest.. he is the best DH of the 3.

    2. If I get Matsui for DH - I let Damon and Johnson walk and play Gardner in LF.

    3. If I don't get Matsui - I sit down with Damon and negotiate a deal - and he plays part-time LF w/Gardner and DH.

    4. If I don't get Matsui or Damon THEN I sign Nick "wake me up when the at-bat is over" Johnson....and I bat him down in the lineup and see if he still has 20+ HR power at YS's short porch.




  • Ballpark
    Jason I agree with most of what you say .The Rays do have a weak BP BUT MOST TEAMS AREN'T GOOD ENOUGH TO EXPLOIT IT.THE YANKS CAN WITH THEIR HIGH POWERED PATIENT ATTACK THAT GETS STARTERS OUT OF THE GAME IN 5-6 INNINGS .The Rays are so good in every other part of the game not to make the playoffs.Their starting pitching will help make up for a weak pen.

    On to the Sox,so much was made of their great defense and it goes against all baseball logic.Great DEFENSES ARE STRONG UP THE MIDDLE.Their catchers are the worst in baseball.They added an old man who's better days are gone in Cameron.Scutaro is an avg at best SS.The only player up the middle that is a plus defender is Pedroia.How in the world can this be a great defensive team?
    The Rays served notice on the Sox and trust me the Sox aren't saying the Rays bullpen is going to keep them from the playoffs.The only thing to keep the Rays out,will be the Sox and I think they have way to many holes to beat out the Rays
  • JasonChervokas
    Good points about the Sox defense. Scutaro has looked signifcantly worse then average in the games I saw (and I watch the Sox a bunch). I know they said they shored up their defense, but you're right, even on paper it ain't anything to write home about. But what to make of the lousy pitching. Beckett's been bad, Lester's been mediocre...those guys won't be bad all year I think. They have a bunch of DH/first baseman types on that team--Ortiz, Lowell (at this point), Martinez (who really shouldn't be catching, but then, neither should Posada)...I dunno what they're going to do about trying to add a bopper, they don't have much in the way of roster flexability.
  • twasp
    Matsui is 3 times the hitter Johnson is. CashMan won't admit it , but the only reason he even contacted NJ in the off-season is because he wanted to stick it to BorAss.

    Who could argue that either Damon or Matsui would have been a better choice than Nick "pass me the fries" Johnson? Ok maybe some sabermetricians with coke-bottle glass lenses and pocket protectors, but they wouldn't know a baseball if they sat on one.

    You want a #2 hitter who has good obp, gives good at-bats, hits for average, runs the bases well and has some pop in his bat - Damon is the guy not NJ.

    You want a DH that has a good eye, hits for avg and power, and is one of the best, clutch rbi men in the business - Matsui is the guy not NJ.
  • Ballpark
    I couldn't have said it better myself.
  • twasp
    Thanks BP I think I'll usethis comment on iYankees.
  • Ballpark
    Jason,very well said.You have good eyes.I know its early and things can change but players are who they are and thats not going to change.My point is players flaws and strengths will play out the thing that can change is injuries,which are unpredictable.
    I said the Rays would be better than the Sox and they are.The Sox have plenty of talent but they have holes and appear to be a poorly constructed team.All teams have questions but the good teams have answers .The Sox will not be able to address their needs without drastic measures.Yanks have Questions but have the answers on their own roster.
    Things are coming together for the Yanks ,my only problem with the current roster is not having Matsui.I said when they let him walk for 5 mil and signed NJ for the same it was a huge mistake.Now he's batting cleanup for the Angels.That tells you something.
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