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Nick Johnson, the Injury Bug, and the OBP Fallacy

It’s only the second spring training game but with Nick Johnson scratched from yesterday’s line up because of back pain the “here we go again” stories are already being written about the oft injured first baseman.

Now I don’t think Johnson’s playing time is a make or break factor for the 2010 Yankees because, frankly, I have low expectations for Johnson’s offensive impact. But unlike last year, and many years previous, the Yanks aren’t loaded up with veteran DH candidates. Sure they have a lot of outfielders, and I suspect you’ll wind up seeing a lot of Randy Winn in the outfield with Nick Swisher as DH in Johnson’s absence. And mark my words there will be plenty of days when Johnson is absent. In his 7 full major league seasons Johnson’s average 108 games per season, but that average masks the reality that he’s played 100 games or more fewer times than he’s played less than 100 games. A Yankee team with Brett Gardiner, Curtis Granderson and Randy Winn in the OF and Nick Swisher at DH is hardly one for the time capsule. It’s a good thing they’ve got great offensive output from the infield. (If anything can derail the Yanks this year it’s injuries, with age on the infield and pitchers like Burnett and Pettitte due for DL stints.)

I understand, and even like most of the Yanks’ off season moves (especially the theft of Javier Vazquez for Melky Cabrera). They needed to get younger and more atheletic in the OF and in Granderson they get someone eight years younger who can match Damon’s offensive output and play better OF. They needed to clear out DH time for aging infield vets, most especially Posada (who should be transitioning to full time DH). They needed to clear out salary and roster space for next year’s class of free agents like Carl Crawford and Cliff Lee so they needed a bunch of one year deals (Johnson, Pettitte) and fill in players (Winn, Thames). I get all that.

What I don’t get is signing Nick Johnson instead of Hideki Matsui. Ok, Matsui literally can’t do anything but DH at this point while Johnson can still play a decent first base as a fill it (though at 30 and already carrying a Babe-ish pot belly he’s not terribly mobile at first anymore). But playing a little first base is Johnson’s only plus. For one year Matsui is still a much more productive offensive player (162 game averages: .292 BA, 25 HR, 106 RBI, 95 R, 286 total bases for Matsui; .273 BA, 19 HR, 80 RBI, 86 R, 239 total bases for Johnson). And even with Mastui’s bad knees he still played many more games than Johnson over the last three seasons: 378 for Matsui, 266 for Johnson.

What is the reasoning offered for the Johnson signing by Brian Cashman and Johnson’s adherents? That Johnson can fill Damon’s slot in the two-hole in the batting order because of his on-base percentage. In recent years OBP (and OPS) are statistics that have gained a cultist currency, but I think OBP is the most overrated statistic in baseball history. Nick Johnson’s career OBP is 30 points higher than Hideki Matsui’s. Is anyone willing to argue that Johnson is a better hitter than Matsui, or that he’s a more productive player? Of course not. Scoring runs and driving in runs–these are the crucial offensive skill for an offensive baseball player, and while any players’ totals in these areas are affected by the performance of the players around him, good run producers will out. Look at how many RBIs a guy has year after year. Look at a guy’s batting average with runners in scoring position. Look at his runs scored totals year after year. That will tell you if you have a run producer on your hands. OPS tells us next to nothing about a player’s ability to produce runs.

I’m not saying Johnson is a poor run producer. He’s a pretty good one, in fact, and a comparison with Robinson Cano is instructive. Cano and Johnson couldn’t have hitting styles that are more different–Cano is a classic free swinger, Johnson a classic pitch-taker. The common perception is that Cano, with his .320 BA, 48 double, 24 HR last year is a better run producer than Nick Johnson. But in fact the Yanks plan to bat Cano in the five-spot this year, one of the most important run producing slots in the line up. But if you compare their 162-game average you’ll see that Cano and Johnson are very similar run producers

Cano .306, 19 HR, 87 RBI, 90 R, 302 total bases, .339 OBP

Johnson .273, 19 HR, 80 RBI, 86 R, 239 total bases, .402 OBP

Similar, but not the same. With his similar HR power but 30 point higher BA Cano is in fact a better run producer than Johnson with his 70 point higher OBP. But the differences aren’t enormous. Cano and Johnson are similarly productive, but they come by their productivity differently; that’s the only thing their OBP number tell us.

Now selectivity at the plate–for which OBP is often a proxy–is certainly a virtue that Cano does not possess. And it’s a skill that, were he to improve on it, would undoubtedly make Cano a better run producer–not only getting him on base more often and helping him score more runs but also gettting him better pitches to hit and allowing him to drive in more runs. But OBP in an of itself is a next to meaningless stat. You win by touching home, not by touching first.

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  • big papi
    Jason/Tom - I agree Johnson is not Damon and Matsui because he hasn't proven himself on the big stage. And comparing his higher obp pales to the clutch, impact players they are.

    But that doesn't mean we throw it out completely. The comparison to Puljos and Longoria similar obps but nowhere near the hitter is a good one if some stat head thinks NJ is as good a "hitter". But to those who think his offensive contribution in the 2 spot is as conducive to scoring runs as almost any other top of the line-up hitters they may be right.
  • JasonChervokas
    I don't think Johnson's a bad hitter, and once he was a pretty good first baseman. Putting aside his injury history, I don't love him as a number two hitter because of his Steve Balboni-like speed. But he's ok. He's not the stick handler Damon is, but Damon had fallen off so steeply as an OF, and the Yanks were in such desperate need of getting younger in the OF I understand the heirarchy's reluctance to make a long term high dollar committment to Damon.
  • Cory
    Again, read up on wOBA and EqA which most accurately assess a players overall value. They are much more valuable than OPS, OPS is not as good a stat because it can overvalue either the SLG or OBP of a player and does not take into account the run values of say a double over a single. Saying anything about Johnson's defense is pointless b/c he'll mainly be a DH, the fact that he can play a little 1B every now and again is just icing on the cake. There's no denying Johnson is slow, but that really doesn't become a huge factor when you have two combined players batting behind you who can belt 80 HR and are XBH machines. I would take Nick Johnson anyday over Damon, and that's not even debatable to me. I can at least see a valid argument with Matsui. The only way Johnson relates to Matsui is the fact that they are both DH. If you want to compare anyone to Matsui, compare Granderson who is a left handed bat who could likely hit in the 5 hole (against righties) and who's salarly is more comparable to Matsui's than Johnsons is. You people are seriously misjudging the value of Nick Johnson. It's also pointless to nitpick one event where Matsui drove in 6 runs and judge his value on that, that is completely silly. Any given player can have a huge game at any given time, Garret Anderson hit 10 RBI against the Yankees a few years ago, maybe he's more valuable than both players.
  • JasonChervokas
    Garret Anderson in his prime quite possibly was more valuable than either of the other two. I'd have to compare his numbers but he was a heck of a ball player.
  • tomwatson
    Well what can I say, if you'd rather have Nick Johnson over Johnny Damon "anyday" than you're in faith-based territory and you gotta respect another fella's religion.
  • Cory
    EqA, wOBA, and WAR, read up on it and you'll thank me in the morning. Nick Johnson is superior to Matsui in all those categories. Granted, WAR takes into acount defense, which obviously Matsui hasn't contributed to in a few years now. The other two basically state that Johnson is a more valuable hitter than Matsui is. Also, comparing Matsui to Johnson is moot, one is a 5 hole hitter, the other is a 2 hole hitter, it is completely ridiculous to compare the two. It's not going to be Nick Johnson's job to slug 25 HR, his job is to get on base and score runs, you know what leads to scoring more runs right? Getting on base. When it comes to that, Nick Johnson is one of the best and is about as good at his job as there is out there. It's Tex and A-Rods job to slug and hit HRs. I also think it's silly that slugging and driving in runs is supposed to equate to a better hitter, this isn't 1950, there are much better statistics to prove a players value then the counting statistics on the back of a baseball card, especially when considering what part of the lineup a particular batter will be hitting in.
  • JasonChervokas
    This is one of those unresolvable schisms, like the continual debates among audiophiles about audible differences between capacitors that measure the same.

    From my perpective stats are things we invent to try to measure and compare players but they only tell us what they are designed to tell us--reflecting the biases of the creators of the measurements--inevitably they don't describe or explain everything we see. I still view OBP as a marginal stat. Both Nick Swisher and Albert Pujols have OBPs +100 points higher than their BAs, but big deal. Swisher and Evan Longoria have career OBP about 10 points apart, but are they really comparable hitters? That's what I mean about OBP being a marginal stat, it separates otherwise similar players, but comparing one players OBP to another's doesn't tell us much about the value of a hitter in the abstract.

    OPS gets closer to something like total bases which I like as a stat to gauge how productive a hitter is. I also like %BRS as a productivity stat. But I start with my eyes and then see if the stats describe what I see, just like I start with my ears and see if the measurements describe what I hear with audio circuits. If the stats and measurements don't comport with what I see then my presumption is that we're measuring the wrong things.

    As to Johnson v. Matsui, they are comparable in that they fill the same roster spots, they're both LH hitters, and in essence the team replaced one with the other in terms of roster and salary. With respect to their intended roles in the line up they are different obviously, though, as I've said previously in this thread in any given game, past the first inning, any hitter can come up in any kind of situation--a get on base situation, a move runners over situation, a drive runners in situation. There's no doubt that Matsui is an excellent situational hitter. I don't imagine Nick Johnson on his best day single handedly winning a world series game the way Matsui did with his 6 RBIs in game 6.
  • tomwatson
    Nick Johnson will make you wish Jorgie Posada was out there running the bases - he's nowhere close to Damon as no. 2 hitter.

    Look, Johnson will occasionally beat you and yes, he's a professional hitter, not a bum. But he's no Matsui or Damon. I've been to dozens of games where Johnson played against the Mets. Sure, he's got that gaudy OBP but he's just not a force at all. And he's lost all his range at 1B (again, Posada has more - at first!), though he still has the quick glove. But you'll find that out....
  • Cory
    This article is horrible, there are some many things wrong with it that I don't know if I want to take the time to address all the problems.
  • tomwatson
    Not much of a comment, pallie - obviously you don't hold any strong and defensible positions.

    And Steve Vai's overrated.
  • Cory
    Not much of a comment on Steve Vai pallie- obviously you don't hold any strong and defensible positions.
  • JasonChervokas
    Nice, discussion guys, I've heard 5th grade girls engaging in far more substantial discourse.

    Steve Vai, well, you know, a player with amazing technique who expanded the vocabulary of his instrument, but I find I never want to listen to the music he's composed...as a writer he's a sideman. As to OBP, well, everyone knows what I think, not that telling a statistic and of marginal importance to a player's offensive output. As to Nick Johnson, well everyone knows what I think about that too, I like Nick Johnson as a player, but for a single season of 2010 I'd rather have Matsui.
  • twasp
    Eric Goldberg - whoeve you are. Please comeover to iYankees blog and join our discussions. You are a smart dude. Much smarter than these two airheads you're arguing with.
  • Twasp
    Tom , Jason , whoever the hell wrote this silly, rambling, contradicting post must have failed stat 101, algebra and addition/subtraction.

    No statistic by itself fully describes run production . That's no reason to discard it and brand it useless. And to ridicule OPS which uses slugging % ( power) as useless is just silly.

    Probably you are trying to create a niche for this blog site by being anti-sabermetrics and controversial.

    You don't have to. You've got a good eye for stories, fun topics and interesting spins. Stay anti-moneyball if that's what you believe but don't go overboard just for shock value. You're better than that and we know it.
  • twasp
    "You win by touching home, not by touching first"

    True but you cant touch home if you didn't touch first, first.

    I would argue OBP is the best stat to evaluate a number 1 and 2 hitter.

    Slugging % for a 3-4-5 hitter.

    NJ is better as a 2, Matsui is better for middle of the line-up.

    When you consider a very good 3-4-5 hitter is more valuable because of run production (total bases/rbis/power) Matsui should have been kept ahead of signing NJ.
  • JasonChervokas
    I don't disagree that lineup roles exist and matter, but I do think their importance is overstated. You're only a number 1 or number 2 hitter if you come to bat first or second in an inning and that's only assured in the first inning. In reality in any given game hitters come up in all kinds of situations and the best rise to the situtaion and produce in a way that is appropriate to it--get on base late in a game when trailing, move a runner over, or hit a sac fly with a runner on third. Matsui, for example, is a great situational hitter. Damon also was a great situational hitter. Situational hitting is what you need, and AFAIK there's no stat for that.

    Of course there are factors beyond the control of the player which have an impact on a player's ability to drive in runs, just as a player in a better line up is also likely to have a better BA because he's likely to see better pitches to hit, or a hitter in a ball park like Oaklands--with lots of foul territory--are likely to have a slightly lower BA than a hitter in a park like Fenway--with next to no foul territory. But I think run producers will out--the guys who drive in 100 runs year after year do it whatever team they're on. Yeah, Don Mattingly might have driven in 145 runs one year because Rickey Henderson hit in front of him, but he would have driven in 110 anyway....we know he was a run producer. The 85 RBI guy is a decent run producer but there's a real situational hitting leap that player has to make to become a steady 100 rbi guy. Look at Cano, he's a good hitter in a good line up with guys on base in front of him, but he hasn't yet become the run producer the Yanks have been waiting for him to become. And if he hits 5th this year I promise you Tex and Arod will get a lot of walks in front of him because he's not the run producer they are.

    I'd also like to see a statistic for percentage of runs driven in per RBI opportunity...how often with a runner on second or third does a given batter get that runner home. Situational hitting, RBI percentage, batting average, slugging pct, to me these are important things to look for a hitter. As I've said before OBP is a statistic best use as a proxy for selectivity at the plate, or as a way of measuring the marginal difference between otherwise similar hitters. But in and of itself a high OBP is not terrible important nor does it tell you how productive that hitter will be. When I hear someone describe as a "good on-base guy" I yawn.
  • Twasp
    Lineup slots 1-2 while mostly only happening in first inning, always come before your studs and always get more PAs, so it's much better to have high obp guys there.

    PS - disregard my earlier posts tonight I believe your sincerity now and think you make some decent arguments - even if they're statistically highly questionable. And I actually agree with your conclusions about the 09 vs 10 Yankees.

    Reading Jason, Tom and Eric was highly enjoyable and I think Eric had the smartest most well balanced arguments.

    And yes I am bipolar.
  • tomwatson
    No problem it's a bi-polar site - comments welcome. Bring yer friends.
  • jstuda
    Yeah...

    Runs scored and RBI are not good indicators of a players ability "to produce runs." Obviously players in good line-up's will have more opportunities to bat home runs and score runs off other players' hits. Hideki Matsui would not have nearly as many RBI and Runs Scored playing in a weaker line-up.

    Nick Johnson was acquired to fill the 2-hole, so it's kind of pointless to compare him to Matsui. You have to look at the Johnson and Granderson acquisitions as offsetting the loss of Matsui and Damon. I don't think it's at all unfeasible that Johnson and Granderson combined will hit more HR's and have a higher OBP than Matsui and Damon this year. So with them, the Yankees got younger, cheaper, and probably better.
  • JasonChervokas
    Eric, I'll grant you Matsui's age as a problem, and as I mentioned in the original post I understand the need to get others time at DH (especially Posada, who should be the full time DH already) but if Nick Johnson a) plays more games; and b) drive in more runs or has a higher batting average than Hideki Matsui, I'll be surprised.

    I put no stock in statistical modeling to project player performance like PECOTA. That's gypsy fortune telling dressed up in pseudo scientific trappings. On the subject of OBP--which I really do detest--of course having players on base is necessary for run producers to drive in runs. But a high OBP is, in an of itself, among baseball tools, way down the list of important ones--after throw, catch, hit for average, hit for power, drive in runs at a high percentage when presented with the opportunity, and speed/base stealing....Sabrematics geeks will tell you that OBP (or OPS) is the most important stat. And I just thing that's dopey--just like Bill James' insistence that statics prove there's no such thing as a closer, that pithcing one inning is pitching one inning, is bordline insane because it denies obvious reality. It's like finding stats to prove the sky is green.

    Furthermore, I think OBP tells you very little about how productive a player is. That's why I thought the comparison of Cano and Johnson was interesting. They're very similar players in terms of HR, runs scored, rbi--the production statistics--but Cano's a little better in all those areas. Cano has a slightly higher BA, Johnson a *much* higher OBP. All the OBP stat tells us reallly his how selective a hitter is, not how productive--and therefore valuable--he is.
  • tomwatson
    I will say this though - a very low OBP is clearly and indicator. Like if a guy hits .298 and his OBP is .310. He's not as good as the guy who hits .280 with an OBP of .360.

    But for generally productive hitters, the difference between, say, .360 and .400 is only the stuff of geekdom, I think.

    The Yanks' 2010 lineup is simply not as good as their '09 juggernaut, in my view - though it's still very good indeed. (And yes, part of this stems from my NL East-centric pov - I know Nick Johnson and I'd rather have Daniel Murphy, which should tell you something).
  • JasonChervokas
    "Like if a guy hits .298 and his OBP is .310. He's not as good as the guy who hits .280 with an OBP of .360"

    Not as good as? Depends on what else he does--does he have a knack for hitting sack flies and driving in runs, does he steal bases and score runs? etc. I'd love to find some specific guys to compare with similar production stats but different OBPs to see if our intuitive idea about this play out in practice...that's why I looked at Johnson and Cano...There are a bunch of guys, like Nick Swisher, who's OBP is 100+ points higher than his BA, and there's no doubt it helps his runs scored number. Does it make him more valuable than a low OBP .245 20HR guy? Sure, but just a little. OBP is of marginal importance, that's my point.

    I agree that this year's yankee line up is not as good as last year's, but unless aging players hit the wall, which could happen, it will be good enough to score a ton of runs, and Yankee pitching with Vazquez ought to be a lot better. Of course the Rays and especially the Sox are better too...What a brutal division.

    Nick Johnson's a funny player--I think he's overrated by his fans, underrated by his detractors. Only time will tell if Murphy's as good or better than Johnson. He had a comparable to slightly bettter first full season than Johnson did (significantly higher BA, a couple fewer HRs), but of course Johnson game up as a good glove man, Murphy a guy in search of a position where they could carry him.
  • tomwatson
    Yeah, I like Murphy - my highest hope is a Mattingly-like trajectory, OF to 1B - Murphy had tons of extra-base power for what was widely considered a "bad" year. And he made the spectacular play whilst working on his footing and positioning.

    His '09 wasn't as bad a detractors have it:

    G - 155
    AB - 508
    R - 60
    H - 135
    2B - 38
    3B - 4
    HR - 12
    RBI - 63
    BB - 38
    K - 69
    BA - .266
    OBP - .313

    If you view it as a semi-rookie/development year there's a lot of promise.

  • JasonChervokas
    Well, Mattingly made a huge leap when he went from his first season of 95 games mostly in the OF to his first really full season of 150+ games mostly at first--1984. In that year he led the league in hitting at .343, hits at 207, doubles at 44. He drove in 110 runs, had 23 HR and finished 5th in the MVP voting. If Murphy leds the NL in hitting, hits and doubles. Hits 20+ HRs and drives in 100 runs that would be one hell of a step up.
  • tomwatson
    Agreed - it's just a dream right now. But their total 'development' numbers are similar, and Murphy has that short, sweet swing.
  • Eric_Goldberg
    @tom: I'm not sure Matsui, Johnson =or= Murphy ever have had a season as good as Ken Griffey's top 7 seasons, but I'll take all three of them over KG Jr. for 2010. Less facetiously, Matsui's 2009 was impressive, but it has "Indian summer of his career" written all over it -- and, with both knees compromised, his historic reliability has to be prospectively downgraded. By a lot.
    @Jason: Sabermetricians do have two blind spots: the ones they acknowledge, most notably including fielding, and the ones about which they're mostly in denial. The "there's no such thing as a closer" example you point out is one component of a greater human-factors blind spot, that includes clutch and anti-clutch hitting, etc.
    "I think OBP tells you very little about how productive a player is."
    E pur si muove! Sorry -- I'm reasonably confident that there are many proofs to the contrary, starting with the rules of baseball. (See the "consume outs" argument I made in my original post.) We may have to agree to disagree.
    @Tom "...my NL East-centric pov - I know Nick Johnson and I'd rather have Daniel Murphy"
    I'm confused. You presumably realize that Johnson was in the NL East last year, and was a significantly superior player to Murphy. Perhaps you're wishcasting that Murphy will turn into Mattingly Lite, and discounting Johnson's performance for the absence of the DH in the NL, but it's still hard for me to square this particular circle.
  • tomwatson
    Eric - I guess it's your point about upside. But also, "significantly" looks more like "slightly" to me.

    Here's achy-breaky Johnson:

    .291
    8 HR
    62 RBI

    Here's young Danny boy:

    .266
    12 HR
    63 RBI

    and Murphy had 18 fewer PA's....

    Also, Johnson had only 34 extra base-hits whilst Murphy sported 54. Yes, the young guy didn't walk and K'd more but he was as productive nonetheless, or close enough that you'd clearly take the 24-year-old.
  • Eric_Goldberg
    Hmmm... Baseball Prospectus' Equivalent Average tool, which is as good a rough-and-ready one-stop shop for evaluating a player's worth, lists Johnson's 2009 EqA at .295 and Murphy's as .281. As EqA does weight for OBP, if you apply a Chervokas discount, and also factor in injury propensity (which EqA does not measure, though it's the lead thought in BPro's Johnson player comment) and relative age, then, yes, it is close enough.
    In which case, I stand corrected. (Or, to be strictly accurate, sit corrected. <g>)</g>
  • tomwatson
    Close yeah - and I'm the rare Mets fan who thinks Murphy has a real upside. Most commentators blast the heck out of him. I'm pleased to have him, and Ike Davis on deck. Hope he has a break out year.

    The Yanks had a decent off-season but I have to say, if they had Damon-Granderson rather than Johnson-Granderson, they'd be much better off. I really don't get that move. I do agree that they were not gonna bring Matsui back - one key reason (I think Jason mentioned this) is that undoubtedly Posada will have to DH a bunch, and they really should give Jeter 10-15 DH games if they're smart. Why sign a gimpy, aching guy with no range, no speed, less power - it was really the one move that made no sense. They've got a bunch of DH types already.
  • Eric_Goldberg
    Would you sign Damon at 2 yrs/$18MM or even $20MM versus Johnson at 1 year at $5MM? (Remember that Boras was posturing for 4 years, so I'm assuming that the Yankees would have had to top the Tigers' eventual signing numbers to "bargain" Damon down to 2 years.)
    Am in last-minute prep for a week-long trip to California, so regretfully will take my leave of this thread.
  • tomwatson
    Good question, though I think the economics are a secondary issue - especially with the Yanks. But yeah, two years at what Damon's getting with the Tigers would have worked for me - Johnson is a cheaper solution, just not as good.

    Hope you're enjoying the new blog, Eric - safe trip!
  • Eric_Goldberg
    In the context of the 2010 Yankees, there's a quite decent chance that Nick Johnson will be a fine -- if not superior -- substitution for Hideki Matsui. If Johnson plays in the vicinity of 100 games, there's an excellent argument that they've made the superior choice between these two DH candidates.
    Consider:
    -- There are two key bats that should be excused from playing the field as often as once per week (Jorge Posada and Alex Rodriguez); and, with the advance of age, Derek Jeter and perhaps even Nick Swisher could use a DH stint at least once every few weeks.
    -- Matsui, despite his fine comeback in 2009, is no longer the player described by his 162 game averages. He's 36 years, and the original warranty has run out on both his knees. (Ironically, BPro's PECOTA projects Johnson to have =more= plate appearances than Matsui in 2010; Diamond Mind/Dan Szymborski's ZiPS is far more conservative, and calls for Matsui to have ~425 PA and Johnson ~350.)
    -- Men on base are valuable, even when they're as slow as Nick Johnson. (How slow? Let's just say that molasses in January would have a sporting chance...) There's a very high correlation between high RBI totals and high-OBP men in front of a batter; and Texeira and A-Rod are rumored to be effective at getting hits that score runners.
    "OBP is the most overrated statistic in baseball history". I allow for the possibility that Jason was bitten by a sabermetrician at a young and impressionable age, but I don't get this statement. You win in baseball by scoring more runs than the opponent and, over time (e.g., a 162-game season), not consuming outs is the most effective way to maximize run-scoring opportunities.
    I also allow for the possibility that Jason wrote this piece as an exercise in devil's advocacy, an area of writing in which his talent exceeds Hideki Matsui's not-inconsiderable abilities as a hitter.
  • tomwatson
    I'm not sure Nick Johnson's ever had a season as good as Hideki Matsui had just last year - maybe 2006, but it's debatable...

    And last year, the 'downside' Matsui was clearly a better hitter, OBP notwithstanding - more power, more runs, more RBI, higher slugging percentage.
  • tomwatson
    I can't disagree with anything here.

    You know, you can grant the Granderson move: younger player etc. I get that, though I think they'll miss Damon a lot in the two hole.

    But you can't make any case at all for Nick Johnson vs. Hideki Matsui. Johnson's the oldest 30-year-old in baseball and they didn't get him for the long term. For 1-2 years, Matsui made more sense in the DH slot, by far. Johnson will be day to day all year.
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